Beyond the Bench: Scientists with Interesting Hobbies

Interviews from Dr. Lattin’s Scientific Communication for Biologists graduate course at LSU


Dog competitions with Kale Costanza

Kale Costanza is a PhD student in the Elderd Lab in the Department of Biological Sciences at Louisiana State University. This article is about Kale’s hobby of participating in dog competitions. Kale was interviewed by Nathaniel Haulk, a Master’s student at LSU. This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity. 

Nathaniel Haulk: How would you describe your research to a 5th grader?

Kale Costanza: We study caterpillars and what makes them sick in order to help farmers and scientists. A lot of caterpillars are bad, and we need to know how to stop them from eating crops like corn and rice.

NH: When did you adopt your dogs? How did you choose those two specifically?

KC: I wanted to get a Dalmatian my whole life. When I was 21, I found a lady in Texas that had a litter available and contacted her. I researched which one would best fit the Dalmatian standard, and it was a dog named Jake. I got him in 2018 when he was eight weeks old. From then up until the beginning of 2019, I looked at more breeders that matched what I would want for a dog, and eventually I found a breeder in Florida. She had a litter that was born August 2019, and she and I worked together for the next eight weeks to select a puppy. Based on temperament, structure, and the other features I wanted, I selected June. 

NH: When did you first become interested in competing?

KC: That was something I wanted to do my whole life. Growing up, I was always around dogs and livestock. Dog shows were my favorite of the livestock shows, and I was interested in agility, which is racing around an obstacle course, and in a few other sports that were televised. When I was in high school, my family acquired a few Husky mixes, and I started going to agility classes with one of them, Lucy. I found the agility classes enjoyable and then picked up obedience classes. Once I got June, I had a dog that could do it more competitively, and that made me want to compete in more sports.

NH: What was your first competition with the Huskies? And what was your first competition with the Dalmatians?

KC: With Lucy, my first competition was a barn hunt competition, where dogs find rats in hay bales. She did really well, and that was a really fun and encouraging start. June’s first agility trial was fast CAT, or basically a 100-meter dash for dogs, and she did not do well. She just did not know how to run or what to do! June’s actual first competition was when she was a four-month-old puppy, and she did a conformation show. These tend to be the typical dog shows where they compare temperament, expression, movement, all of that. For the first competition, she did really well and won best puppy among the other Dalmatians.

NH: So far, what has been your favorite event?

KC: I would say agility. That was something that I always was interested in, and it's the very first class I took. It's also one of the hardest events and is a long term and difficult investment. June has her agility course test title, but even with both dogs I've done ability trials with, I am still working on getting actual trial titles.

NH: Are there any competitions you'd like to enter in the future or are there any milestones you want to reach in the future?

KC: In May, I have a rally trial, and beyond that, there's a barn hunt trial in July. In the grander scope, I really want to go to the Dalmatian Club of America National Specialty. That’s the yearly national competition where all Dalmatian owners who are in the club come together and compete, and it’s held in a different state every year. I'd also like to attend Westminster and the American Kennel Club National Championships.

June winning Best of Breed for a 3-point major at an American Kennel Club conformation show. Image courtesy of Kale Costanza.

June running in a FastCAT 100-yard dash. Her personal best speed is 25 MPH. Image courtesy of Kale Costanza.

Jake with his Novice Trick Dog and Intermediate title ribbons. Photo courtesy of Kale Costanza.

June performing in a scent trial. Multiple essential oils are placed around an arena and each dog has to pick out the correct one. Video courtesy of Kale Costanza.


Woodworking with Jerry Ferris

Jerry Farris is a Distinguished Professor of Environmental Biology at Arkansas State University, and enjoys woodworking in his free time. Jerry was interviewed by Kevin Krajcir, a former graduate student at LSU and current Grants Coordinator for the Arkansas Natural Heritage Commission. This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.

Kevin Krajcir: How would you describe your science to a 5th grader?

Jerry Farris: I work with [the process of] cleaning water. I study animals that reflect the impact that we have on water. Like a doctor might take your temperature, I take measurements from these animals to determine if they are feeling well.

KK: How long have you been practicing woodworking? What, or who, initially drew you to the hobby?

JF: My father had a shop in our backyard. From him, I learned how to use and take care of the tools. I remember when I was 6 or 7 years old, I would sneak his tools out into the yard! Eventually, I began my own collection of tools. The pieces I make are largely inspired by my passions as a naturalist. While working on my Master’s degree [at Arkansas State University], I realized I could craft birds, invertebrates, and other decoys. My style, however, was largely influenced by an artist. I took a print-making class as an elective in graduate school, and I was always amazed by the work of our professor, Evan Lindquist. When I asked about his inspirations, he told me that prior to becoming an artist he went to school for biology! His insight into both fields has inspired my craft.

KK: Can you describe some of the pieces that you’ve made?

JF: I have six grandchildren, and I recently made them an ark filled with animals. This ark has been the most challenging piece I have ever made, based on its size and the numerous animals I made. It was a bit difficult to hand it over to my grandkids for them play with once I was done! I have also used my skills to craft pieces for scientific societies. I found out that folks really like shorebirds, so I have donated pieces to silent auctions and the funds have been used to raise money for graduate student travel to these conferences. I have also gifted pieces to genuinely nice students who have worked with me, in the lab or elsewhere, as a going-away present. I typically create something based on their scientific interests.  

KK: Of all the pieces that you have made, is there one that is particularly special to you?

JF: I value them all, because they represent different periods of my work and different people who I have worked with over the years. I have a carving of a predaceous diving beetle as a piece of office furniture. What makes it special is that I have the names of all the technicians from that project carved into the wood. So it serves a reminder of my time with those folks.

KK: Is there any advice you have for folks wanting to get into woodworking?

JF: Visit every museum when you get the chance to travel anywhere! I love the Smithsonian Institutition and the indigenous cultural museums of the Pacific Northwest. You learn so much about the craft and various styles by seeing others’ works and their processes. Learn what you can from books, magazines, and online resources as well; there is so much available on this topic!

The wooden ark with pairs of animals that Jerry made for his grandchildren. Photo courtesy of Jerry Ferris.

A wooden diving beetle carved with names of different technicians and locations from the associated project. Photo courtesy of Jerry Ferris.

Another of Jerry’s projects, a wooden oryx that he gifted to a former student. Photo courtesy of Jerry Farris.


Rockhounding with Aimee Van Tatenhove

Aimee Van Tatenhove is a PhD Candidate in the Quinney College of Natural Resources at Utah State University and a Science News Reporter for Utah Public Radio. This interview is about her hobbies of rock tumbling and rock and fossil collecting (aka “rockhounding”). Aimee was interviewed by Hirusha Algewattage, a PhD student at LSU. This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.

Hirusha Algewattage: How would you describe your research to a 5th grader?

Aimee Van Tatenhove: I study pelicans that nest on an island in the Great Salt Lake, which is this huge salty lake in Utah. I basically study where they like to go, how well they're surviving, and what causes their populations to get bigger or smaller.

HA: When did you first start collecting rocks and fossils as hobbies?

AVT: I've been collecting rocks and fossils most of my life with my family. We all live in rock towns, so we all love to collect rocks and fossils and gems, and I realized how fun it is to go look for shiny things on the ground. I got into rock tumbling specifically in 2020 as a pandemic hobby. I bought a small rock tumbler and got some grit to add to it to make the rocks shiny.

HA: Can you describe the the process of selecting rocks, and how you determine which ones are suitable for collecting and tumbling?

AVT: I first identify rocks based on their physical characteristics. For example, I can tell if a rock is hard or soft, shiny or dull, and if it leaves a mark when rubbed against something. Usually I choose rocks that have a similar hardness to one another, and which are quite hard. I put them together in my rock tumbler and change out the grit as they become shinier. During the tumbling process, I monitor the rocks to ensure that they are tumbling well. If I notice that some rocks are not tumbling well, I replace them with different ones. Ultimately, I aim to select the hardest rocks because they are the ones that will end up the shiniest once the tumbling process is complete.

HR: What is your favorite rock to collect?

AVT: I personally prefer a hard blue-colored metamorphic rock called specular hematite for the tumbling process. It looks great, and has a somewhat metallic color.

HA: Have you found any interesting fossils?

AVT: I have collected at many different sites, and each one has its own unique collection of fossils. There's a fossil site in Idaho that I've frequently visited, which has a lot of interesting fossils. For instance, I have collected trilobites, which are tiny bug-like creatures. Where I live in Utah, I often come across fossils such as crinoids, which are plant-like sea creatures, as well as various types of coral and fish. A couple of summers ago, I participated in a program where you pay to help with an excavation in Montana. We were able to dig up pieces of dinosaurs such as an Allosaurus, which is a huge dinosaur. It was an incredible experience. However, I couldn't keep any fossils of that dinosaur because it was not allowed.

HA: What advice do you have for people that are starting out rockhounding as a hobby? 

ATV: If you are thinking about getting into tumbling rocks or collecting rocks and fossils, do your research first. It's important to understand the basics before you start, and you can find a lot of information online, in books, and from other collectors. You should learn about the different types of rocks and fossils, the equipment you'll need, and the techniques involved. Another tip would be to start small when you're just getting started. It can be overwhelming if you try to build a big collection right away, so it's a good idea to begin with just a few rocks or fossils. This will give you a chance to learn more about the specimens that you're interested in and develop your skills over time.

Aimee holding a dinosaur fossil collected in Montana that has been prepared for transport. Photo courtesy of Aimee Van Tatenhove.

Aimee collecting fish fossils with her family near Fossil Butte, Wyoming. Photo courtesy of Aimee Van Tatenhove.

Tumbled amethyst that Aimee collected from the Thunder Bay amethyst mine. Photo courtesy of Aimee Van Tatenhove.

Blue rocks from Wyoming in a rock tumbler drum. Photo courtesy of Aimee Van Tatenhove.


Making Crochet Animals with Amy Panikowski

Amy Panikowski is a freelance scientist in South Africa. This article is about her hobby of making crochet animals. Amy was interviewed by Anjira Sengupta, a PhD student at LSU. This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.

Anjira Sengupta: How would you describe your research to a 5th grader?

Amy Panikowski: I wear a lot of different hats when it comes to my research. Professionally, I am a scientist for hire. Some days that can be studying water control, other days I'm studying natural resource management. I also work with rural communities, and some days I'm playing with snakes. I am also an educator. I talk to people about snakes and other reptiles, and why they are important.

AS: How did you get into crocheting animals?

AP: I started around 2018. I went to the University of Florida for graduate school and got my Master’s degree, then I came to South Africa to do research and I met a guy [later husband] there. The entire visa process was too much and that’s when I started to crochet to deal with the stress of going through visas every couple of years. Since the beginning, I wanted to do something more contemporary. Around 2021, our former vet, Dr. Gustav Botha, was moving away. He and his wife were having a second child. I said, “Well, can I make you something?” Gus said, “We have enough blankets, we want a dinosaur.” So I made an Ankylosaurus for them. That was my first crochet animal.

AS: How long does it take you to finish one project?

AP: With my daily schedule, it takes about 2-3 weeks to finish a project. I'm typically a nighttime and weekend crocheter, as other things take up my time - freelancing, rescue and rehabilitation [of wildlife], conservation education, etc. Bigger projects take longer. I am one of those people who tends to have multiple projects going simultaneously.

AS: What are some of your favorite pieces you’ve crocheted?

AP: I made my nephew a chameleon and a frog. My niece likes horses and fish, so I made her little versions of each. My mom loves the beach, I made her a little sea turtle. In 2016, my dad came to South Africa and he just fell in love with the rhinos. So I made him a little rhino. I think those are my some of my favorites.

AS: What would you tell a person who is planning to start crocheting? Can you suggest some resources that might help a beginner?

AP: I'm pretty much self-taught. If you're like me who's a visual learner, YouTube is a great tool. But if you've got a friend that has been crocheting for a while, you can work with that individual side by side. My friend Angie [Redinger] taught me how to read crochet patterns. She's the one I went to when I had to learn how to read and understand that Ankylosaurus pattern!

AS: Do you feel crocheting helps with your conservation work?

AP: All that love for conservation just manifests itself in different ways throughout my life. When I'm working on a [crochet] piece, and I'm counting the stitches, sometimes other conservation things pop up in my head, or things I need to work on, or remember later. But it also gives me a break when I'm in a deep work mode. It gives a bit of time for my brain to relax while at the same time still being productive. I do a lot of work with snakes here. I have to deal with people who kill snakes. I see a lot of dead snakes during the summertime, almost on a daily basis. I spend an enormous amount of time and effort getting people not to do it. It can cause a lot of burnout. Crocheting really helps me on those days.

AS: Do you think having a hobby beside science helps scientists?

AP: Oh yeah, you have to have a hobby. I actually think that there should be more time, especially in grad school, for artistic outlets. I think art is really important for people, even very sciencey people. When I grew up, I was a dancer and I danced all the way through college. We all need something that gives our minds a break, and a different perspective really helps with your work. I hope my crochet animals [on Instagram and Twitter] help people understand the importance of natural organisms, because I really would like people to care about nature.

Amy doing education work with a black mamba snake. Photo courtesy of Amy Panikowski.

Ankylosaurus and her friends, some of the first crochet animals Amy made. Photo courtesy of Amy Panikowski.

The sea turtle Amy made for her mom. Photo courtesy of Amy Panikowski.

The rhino Amy made for her dad. Photo courtesy of Amy Panikowski.

An owl crochet animal. Photo courtesy of Amy Panikowski.


Fostering Cats and Kittens with Carrie Barker

Dr. Carrie Barker is currently a research associate at the Shirley C. Tucker Herbarium at Louisiana State University. Carrie was interviewed by Aislinn Mumford, a PhD student at LSU.

Aislinn Mumford: How would you describe your science to a fifth grader?

Carrie Barker: I study plants, how they got to where they are growing, and why certain species grow in some areas where other species do not.

AM:  How did you become interested in fostering cats?

CB: I started off volunteering at a local animal shelter. I first started walking dogs, then cleaning cages. I’d always wanted to foster, but at that time, I was traveling a lot, so it wasn't feasible. Then the pandemic happened. I wasn’t traveling then, so I was able to start fostering. I really fell in love with it, so I made it a point to continue doing it.

AM: What is the fostering process like? If someone were interested in fostering, how would they go about doing it?

CB: Usually a shelter will have either an email or a link that you can use to sign up. Each shelter will give you some basic training on how to become a foster. After that, as cats come in, they will reach out to their network of fosters. Sometimes they do that through an email listserv. Cat Haven [in Baton Rouge, LA], the shelter I foster at, has a Facebook group, and anytime they have cats or kittens that need to be fostered, they'll just post, and whoever is first to say, “I can take those kittens” will take them. The length of time that you are required to foster for the cats or kittens depends. For kittens, you usually foster until they are eight weeks old and two pounds. If they are adult cats, there may be particular reasons why they need to be fostered. It may be that they have health problems, or that the shelter is having a hard time keeping up with so many cats, or they may need more socialization if they were a stray, so the length of time can vary. It can be up to the discretion of the person fostering. One time I fostered a feral cat for four months because she needed more socialization.

AM: Do you have a favorite memory from fostering?

CB: One time I read a Facebook post a little too quickly. I thought it said they needed a foster for three five-week-old kittens, and it actually said five three-week-old kittens! That was my first time fostering kittens and they had to be bottle fed. You have to bottle feed them every three hours and wake up in the middle of the night to feed them. Luckily, this was during this summer, so I didn't have any classes that I had to go to. It was very difficult, but very rewarding taking care of life that is so fragile, and they became very attached to me. They were very affectionate, and bottle-fed babies tend to be the most affectionate cats, because they get so much human attention.

AM: What would you say to someone who already has a cat, but is interested in fostering? Is that something they can still do?

CB: Yeah! I have a cat that doesn't particularly like other cats or has a hard time getting used to them. I live in a very small apartment as well, so I make it work by keeping them separate for the first couple of weeks, and then slowly introducing them. Or if you have a bigger space, you can have a designated foster area, then you wouldn't have to worry about introducing them to your other animals.  

AM: What is your favorite thing about fostering? 

CB: Probably just knowing I've made a difference, even if it is a small difference. You have these stray animals that wouldn’t have survived that if they hadn't been brought into the shelter, especially the kittens. And so I know that we are making a small difference, and trying to limit the amount of stray cats in Baton Rouge as best as we can. But no matter how many cats and kittens we have spayed, they are always more, so there is always more to do. But yeah, I guess just making a making a little difference is what I like about it. And they're really cute!    

AM: What advice would you have for people who are interested in fostering?

CB: There is a YouTuber called Hannah Shaw that has dedicated her whole life to fostering kittens. She calls herself the Kitten Lady, and she has a ton of informational YouTube videos. She's even made books on how to foster and all the different steps. So if you are interested in fostering, and are kind of nervous about starting, she has a ton of information that was super helpful to me.  

Carrie and five foster kittens. Photo courtesy of Carrie Barker.

The five kittens Carrie started fostering at three weeks old. Photo courtesy of Carrie Barker.

Carrie’s cat Burma (top) and two foster kittens (middle and bottom). Photo courtesy of Carrie Barker.

A foster kitten. Photo courtesy of Carrie Barker.


Collecting Comics with Herman Mays

Herman Mays is an Associate Professor in the Department of Biological Sciences at Marshall University. Herman was interviewed by Mark Yeats, a Master’s student at LSU. This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.

Mark Yeats: How would you describe your research to a fifth grader?

Herman Mays: I mainly study birds. I want to know where they come from, especially birds on islands. I am curious about how they got there and how they evolved into new species. A big part of that is figuring out how many species of birds are on an island. That might seem easy, but there are some birds that are very closely related and look very similar, so you really need to dig deep to figure out if they are different species.

MY: When did you first start collecting comic books?

HM: Well, I had comic books when I was a kid in the 1970s. However, I have none of those comic books anymore! When I started in graduate school [at the University of Kentucky], I didn’t have a lot of money, but there were some great comic shops nearby. Sometimes, on my way home from leaving the lab or office, I would stop by and look at comic books, buying a few here and there. In other words, I had a few when I was in graduate school in the 90s, but I have probably been seriously collecting for only about 20 years.

MY: In total, how many comic books do you think you have in your collection?

HM: The nice thing about having collections, whether it's books or comics or anything like that, is they now have apps. For example, [Key Collector] allows you to keep track of them, so I can look and see what I have. Some people have tens of thousands, but I have 2,677. I think that's a pretty modest collection. Some people I know have around 20,000.

MY: What is the earliest comic book that you remember reading, and how do you think that influenced your interest in collecting comic books?

HM:  I remember reading things like Green Lantern comics [in my early youth]. When I started collecting back in the 90s, I remember reading Venom and The Amazing Spider-Man. A more modern comic book I remember is Jason Aaron’s run on Thor. I remember that very clearly, because it dealt with issues like how there can be a loving God when there is suffering in the world. The comic book dealt with a villain who wants to kill all the gods in the Marvel universe, because of the horrible suffering his people have gone through while the gods remained silent, never helping them. I thought that was a fantastic story.

MY. What is your most cherished comic book, and what makes that one special?

HM: It was a long time ago, my wife gave it to me for my birthday or Father’s Day. She bought me The Amazing Spider-Man #31, which is the first appearance of Gwen Stacy. It's one of my oldest comic books, from 1965. It's amazing to me that you can have this seemingly flimsy paper book that’s almost 60 years old. Also, that one is great because my wife bought it for me! I think she paid $50 for it too. So not only does it have sentimental value, it is probably in my top 10 most valuable comic books.

MY: Does your interest lie mainly in the industry giants like DC and Marvel, or have you found any indie comics that you like?

HM: Most of my collection is Marvel now, and I have a few DC books but not many. However, I do have some independently published comic books. One of the new [indie] comics I have is called Animal Castle (ABLAZE Publishing). It's an adaptation of George Orwell's Animal Farm where farm animals live together in a dictatorship.  I have some Image Comics, and there's one called Crossover. The premise of it is there is some weird cosmic accident and all these comic book characters that were just appearing in fiction become real and hunt down their creators.

MY: Is there any overlap between how you think as a comic book collector and a scientist? Or, has reading comic books ever shaped how you think as a researcher?

HM: The appeal of comic books is, when you're a scientist and you write a scientific paper, you are chasing after something that’s empirical. You can't make up anything. But in comic books, you can. I think part of the appeal is that comic books are not like science. Comics are so open ended.

MY: In my experience of reading comic books, I developed an interest in Alan Moore’s work. I was wondering if you have a favorite graphic novel author. What is it you find unique about their writing style or storytelling ability?

HM: I think my favorite is Frank Miller. My favorite by him, and the biggest part of my collection, is Daredevil. [During the 1980s,] Frank Miller sort of redefined Daredevil, and turned him into the version that everybody knows today. Miller writes in a very gritty, street-level setting, and Daredevil isn’t usually saving the universe like the Avengers, he is just trying to save Hell's Kitchen. He isn’t even saving New York, just his neighborhood.

MY. Is there any advice you would like to give someone interested in collecting comic books?

HM: If you have a local comic book shop, that's the best place to start. Go in and get to know the staff and tell them what sort of characters and stories you find interesting. They will be happy to help!

Herman and his son holding a few Daredevil comic books (a family favorite) that appear to be from the Bronze Age of comic books (1970-1985). Image courtesy of Herman Mays.

Herman’s office display with a wide variety of iconic comic book heroes and villains, including a Daredevil Funko Pop figure. Image courtesy of Herman Mays.

Herman’s issue of Captain America Vol 1 110 (1969), with The Incredible Hulk making an appearance. Fun fact: this story is retold from the Hulk's point of view in Savage Hulk Vol 1 1. Image courtesy of Herman Mays.


Painting with Maheshi Dassanayake

Maheshi Dassanayake is an Associate Professor in the Department of Biological Sciences at Louisiana State University. This interview is about her painting hobby. Maheshi was interviewed by Samadhi Wimalagunasekara, a PhD student at LSU. This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.

Samadhi Wimalagunasekara: How would you describe your research to a 5th grader?

Maheshi Dassanayake: I study how plants grow in difficult environments like in deserts, in saltwater, on mountain tops, and in snow-covered regions.

SW: When did you first start painting as a hobby?

MD: I started painting after finishing high school and while waiting to start college. I was waiting until the announcement [about my college entrance exam results]. During that gap period, I didn't have much to do, and at the time I had my first boyfriend, Suniti [editor’s note: he later became her husband], so I tried to draw things to send to him. That was actually the start.

SW: Why painting? What is your favorite thing about your hobby?

MD: I always liked the natural environment and looking at paintings of birds and plants and flowers. There were leftover paints my mother had used for her work, and I simply played with that paint and started drawing or painting.

SW: Is there any specific type of painting you prefer to do?

MD: Watercolor paintings of plants and animals.

SW: Do you have any favorite paintings, and what is the story behind them?

MD: Not necessarily just one, I like a few of them. Some of these paintings are actually from one-inch postage stamps that I wanted to paint. One such stamp was a Sri Lankan stamp of the Sri Lanka White-eye, an endemic bird in Sri Lanka. Another example is the Wood White Butterfly from an Australian postal stamp. I gifted those paintings to Suniti.

SW: So, the story behind most of your paintings is just to impress Dr. Suniti?

MD: Yeah, absolutely.  I was eighteen years old, and I got a new boyfriend. There was no email, SMS, or phone at the time, right? So that's what I did.

SW: Does your science help your painting or does painting help your science?

MD: There is a natural connection. I was always curious about biology. Even as a four year-old kid, when I had not formed clear thoughts about my passion for science, I was curious about pretty much every living thing. This curiosity made me pay attention to plants and animals that I could see in nature and in pictures, even in small stamps! So what I painted was an extension of that curiosity. The subjects [of the paintings] were naturally those things that I liked to see and later on studied.

SW: As a busy scientist, how do you manage time for your work and time for your hobby?

MD: I hardly have time for painting these days because I prefer to spend more time with my students in the lab. However, I plan to resume painting in the near future.

SW: Do you think it is important for scientists to have non-science hobbies?

MD: I think it's not just one hobby, scientists should have multiple non-science hobbies so that they can get a break from thinking about science and then resume science with a refreshed mindset. Everybody should have a non-science hobby.

Maheshi with one of her paintings. Image courtesy of Maheshi Dassanayake.

One of Maheshi’s postage stamp paintings: the Wood White Butterfly (Delias aganippe), a butterfly endemic to Australia. Image courtesy of Maheshi Dassanayake.

One of Maheshi’s favorite paintings, of the Sri Lanka White-eye (Zosterops ceylonensis), that she gifted to her then-boyfriend, now-husband Suniti. Image courtesy of Maheshi Dassanayake.


Lacemaking with Mary Mangan

Mary Mangan is an independent scientist and co-founder of OpenHelix, a company that provides awareness and training on open-source genomics software tools. Mary was interviewed by Garima Setia, a Master’s student at LSU. This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.

Garima Setia: How would you describe your work to a fifth grader?

Mary Mangan: The goal of my work is to help people understand where to find the [biological] data that they need and how to find it effectively. We help people get the most credible information through the best resources available. If they have had their DNA analyzed, we want them to have the best way to understand that.

GS: How did you get involved in lacemaking as a hobby?

MM: I live in Somerville Massachusetts, which played an important role in the American Revolution. I was doing volunteer work at the revolutionary war site in my city. As volunteers, we had the opportunity to walk the people through the site and teach them history about the site. During this, I became interested in learning about the clothing of the colonial period.  I realized that during this revolutionary war period, lace was really important, people would put lace on their caps and cuffs. This aroused my interest in lacemaking, but I couldn't figure out how to make the lace. After doing some research, I found a local group called the New England Lace Group. They were giving an introductory workshop on lacemaking. I took the workshop and learned how to make lace. I struggled through that because making lace is complicated! Luckily the woman who taught my workshop was also interested in historic lace, and she had some extra details for me. She pointed me in a direction to find more information about the historic laces. That’s when I became interested in this particular kind of lace called Ipswich lace. This lace was made in the late 1800s, about 30 miles from me. There was this community where 600 women made lace, and I had never heard about it before.

GS: What are the things that you really love about lacemaking? And what do you find challenging about it?

MM: One of the things that I love about lacemaking is something that I didn't expect, and that is the lace culture. I didn't realize that lace would have this sort of structure around it where there are all these women who regularly meet. Every month we have lectures about the history of lace or some museum exhibit, so there's a great amount of ongoing education. If you go to a lace conference, or a lace meeting, everyone takes the workshops. People are skilling up constantly with different kinds of lace. I make a couple of kinds of lace but there are dozens of them, and people are always learning more, and they're taking another class, and they're telling you about the class. Their workshop system encourages you to skill up so much. So that was a surprise to me, and I really like that feature. What's challenging to me is how tricky some of the laces really are and it's hard to learn. Some of the patterns in the books are cryptic. They're hard to decipher unless you've taken a workshop with somebody who knows it.

GS: Are there any books you would recommend to people who want to learn lacemaking?

MM: There's a classic book by Santina Levey called “Lace: A History”. This book gives you the whole scope of lace over centuries and the different kinds of lace. This book is expensive. However, one of the cool things about lace culture is that lacemakers have their own libraries, and you can borrow the books from the library. There are also some great introductory lace books that are not too expensive, and you can buy them on Amazon. “Laces of the Ipswich” by Marta Cotterell Raffel is the one that got me into that particular historical lace.

GS: Do you think awareness regarding lacemaking is increasing nowadays?

MM: There is more awareness about lace now compared to how it was before. In the 1970s and 1980s there was a revival of interest in lace. People started coming together to form these local groups and have these workshops and conferences. Now the International Organization of Lace has small chapters, there are also many regional chapters. There is an Eastern Massachusetts lace group, that's part of the New England Lace Group. There is also a Washington DC Lace Group, Florida Lace Group, Toronto Lace Group, and upstate New York Lace Group. There is a new interest in lacemaking by some young people who are coming to lace because it is fun. A number of people do lace TikToks.  There have been a couple of designs by major designers who are using handmade laces. I think it's attracting some people in new ways. So, besides the people who've been doing lace for a long time and are super knowledgeable, we've got a lot of fresh young people coming into it, too.

GS: What advice do you have for people who are interested in lacemaking?

MM: Join some local communities who are involved in it, and you will learn about it. The women who are involved in lace are eager to help! Go to Saturday or Sunday lace events, go to the demonstrations, go to the conferences and take workshops, because lace culture is super interesting. There are a whole bunch of other lacemakers who are doing lace, not in just the traditional patterns but also as art. So I would say, come into it for the hobby, and engage your brain, but also immerse yourself in the culture.

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Mary wearing her favorite Ipswich lace shawl at an event in Milk Row cemetery in Somerville Massachusetts. According to her, it is her best work so far, and it took her around 6 months to complete. Image courtesy of Mary Mangan.

Mary making 18th century lace and listening to 18th century music on the porch. Image courtesy of Mary Mangan.

Mary enjoying “Lace Bingo” with other lacemakers at an online meeting. Image courtesy of Mary Mangan.

A silk hood with Ipswich lace made by Mary. Image courtesy of Mary Mangan.

According to Mary, the top lace is white linen, next is black silk and the yellow lace is a nod to Anne Turner. Image courtesy of Mary Mangan.


Painting with Rodrigo Diaz

Rodrigo Diaz is an Associate Professor in the Department of Entomology at LSU. This article is about his art hobby. Rodrigo was interviewed by Evelin Reyes Mendez, a PhD student at LSU. This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.

Evelin Reyes Mendez: How would you describe your research to a 5th grader?

Rodrigo Diaz: I work with invasive species, organisms that come from different countries or regions and create a lot of ecological problems. People are moving goods and transporting different things faster than ever. My job is to understand how the invasive species [that are accidentally transported along with these goods] impact our ecosystem. I am very interested in finding out how species in their home countries have enemies that keep them under control; this is called biological control. One hypothesis that we are very interested in is that when invasive species arrive in a new region, they explode in number because they do not have a natural enemy. [To test this], we have different projects in different areas, in both the home countries and here. We work a lot with insects and plants that are problematic, and a lot of insecticides and herbicides are used to manage this problem. However, we may be able to use these natural enemies as an alternative method of controlling invasive species.

ERM: What hobbies do you like to do outside of work?

RD: Painting has been my hobby for so long. All of this started with my grandfather when I was a little kid. I would see him painting all the time in oil, I was mesmerized by the diversity of colors and frames [he used]. I started painting with my grandfather, and it was a great bonding time. I like that now I am doing the same with my son, and it is a great way to connect as father and son and share my love of painting and drawing with him. 

ERM: Do you think this hobby makes you a better scientist, or does being a scientist make you good at this hobby?

RD: I believe it is a mix of the two. Good observation is vital both for being a scientist and for painting. I like painting insects, so I am very interested in observing proportion, colors, and features. You have seen paintings of fantastical and very realistic birds. Sometimes if I bring my [scientific perspective], I want to do a realistic representation of an animal. However, at the same time, there is a spectrum where I do not want to be super realistic; I want to lose myself a little bit and enjoy the process of creating something more abstract.

ERM: How long does it take you to complete one of your paintings?

RD: It depends on the technique I use. Some can take me eight hours and others three minutes. It also depends on if I want to do something that I can use in my science, where I need to include more details.

ERM: Do you think that having a hobby in science makes a difference in how you manage stress?

RD: Yes. Studies have shown that you have a greater capacity to concentrate at the beginning of the day: to do more analytical tasks, work on research, write a paper, and so on. However, towards the end of the day, you need to find activities that relax you more. In my case, painting is outstanding because I need to use other skill sets.

ERM: Is there any other hobby that you would like to try?

RD: In terms of art, there are other techniques that I would like to try: charcoal pencils, watercolors, and acrylics. 

ERM: What advice do you have for people that are starting out painting or with their career in science?  

RD: They need to put some time into developing a skill set, and the more effort you put in, the more you will start growing and enjoying the process. Science can be stressful, with [all of the] deadlines. If you start early on allocating some time for any hobby, that can help with time management. If you make time for a hobby, it will help you be more organized in general. I need to have this time for growing, not just as a scientist but as a human being. The greatest joy for me is to give my paintings away and share. I also paint t-shirts with acrylics. I put so much love into my paintings. This is my joy that I can share with friends, and maybe this sparks an interest, and they get into painting.

One of Rodrigo’s artworks, a close-up colorful view of an insect’s head and antennae

One of Rodrigo’s artworks, a close-up colorful view of an insect’s head and antennae. Image courtesy of Rodrigo Diaz.

Another of Rodrigo’s artworks, depicting a black-and-white image of a fly

Another of Rodrigo’s artworks, depicting a black-and-white image of a fly. Image courtesy of Rodrigo Diaz.

Rodrigo's son works on a colorful drawing of a beetle

Rodrigo’s son also enjoys making art, as seen here. Image courtesy of Rodrigo Diaz.

Rodrigo and Evelin pose for a photo together, and Evelin is holding one of Rodrigo's black-and-white insect artworks

Evelin had a nice time talking to Rodrigo about his art, and he kindly presented her with one of his artworks! Image courtesy of Evelin Reyes Mendez.


Scuba Diving with Maggie Knight

Maggie Knight is currently a Research Associate in the lab of Laura Basirico in the LSU College of the Coast & Environment. Maggie was interviewed by Olivia Kluchka, a PhD student at LSU. This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.

Olivia Kluchka: How would you explain your science to a 5th grader?

Maggie Knight: As a marine ecotoxicologist, I spend a lot of time looking at chemicals in the environment and how those chemicals can potentially impact people, animals, or plants. We use a lot of technical machines to measure concentrations and presence of those chemicals.

OK: What got you into scuba diving?

MK: I wanted to be a marine biologist when I was younger, but I was terrified of the ocean. Both of my parents got scuba certified in college, and they had always talked about how awesome it was. I thought, that sounds great, but I’m going to be a boat marine biologist. For my 15th birthday, they signed me up to get scuba certified. I was terrified through the entire course, not only because I was the only kid, but I was also the only girl. Only three of us finished the course and I thought, if I can do something like that, then I’m cut out for this. The first couple of dives did scare me, but it also fascinated me to be underwater and I just fell in love with the ocean more and more every time I went diving.

OK: If I am interested in scuba diving, what type of certifications do I need?

MK: There are many certifying agencies for scuba diving. The agency that I use, the Professional Association of Diving Instructors (PADI), has an Open Water Certification, the basic scuba diving certification. You are required to take the course once, and it follows you all over the world for the rest of your life. However, it is recommended that if you go more than two years without diving you should do a refresher course, which is basically getting in the water with an instructor to recap skills. For an Open Water Certification, you must complete your book work before the course begins. The company I worked for did camps for kids that lasted five days, three days of pool work and two days of open water dives where the students do two dives a day. For adults, it’s typically 20 hours that gets divided up into two consecutive weekends to practice dives. There’s also a discover scuba experience, you don't get a certification out of it, but you get to put on scuba gear and get in the water with an instructor. There are also other types of certifications if you want to stay down longer, dive deeper, take pictures underwater, or dive in a current. Under the PADI system, if you complete five specialties you are considered an advanced diver. On top of that, if you want to get into providing aid to other divers, you can do a rescue course. If you want to do it professionally, you can become a dive master or even an instructor, and there are multiple levels for instructors too.

OK: What was your most memorable diving experience?

MK: In fall 2020, I worked for The Coral Restoration Foundation in Key Largo, Florida. On the last day, we did a public outreach event where we invited scuba-certified community members into our coral nursery to help us clean and take care of the coral that we were growing. Later, we went to monitor restoration areas. It was December, and the sun was setting early. We were going out in the boats around 5 p.m., and we got into the 72-degree water - which is freezing for Key Largo but nice everywhere else in the world - and we immediately spotted a sea turtle. Seeing one in the Keys is a dime a dozen, but if you have ever seen a sea turtle, you know it is a special moment every time. Then we saw all these baby corals that we had outplanted six months earlier, and they were adhering to the reef and doing well. During all our swimming and observing, the sun came out from behind the clouds and was dancing through the water. All of a sudden, there was a huge group of jellyfish, called a smack, floating gracefully in the evening sun. Before I got back on the boat, my coworker showed me a bunch of wild coral that was still doing well, and it was just a magical afternoon and a nice way to cap off the experience that I had in active marine restoration.

OK: Did scuba diving make you fall more in love with the idea of being a marine biologist?

MK: About 90% of marine biology is done above the surface, 10% of it is not. However, scuba diving opens up opportunities for me as a scientist, and I have many great memories. How many people can say they've been thrown off a boat by their dad to scuba dive with a pod of wild dolphins? Also, if you're scuba certified, you can go to coralrestoration.org to learn more [about doing restoration work] and sign up for dives.

Maggie in the water, preparing for a dive. Photo courtesy of Maggie Knight.

Maggie on a dive. Photo courtesy of Maggie Knight.

Maggie on a dive. Photo courtesy of Maggie Knight.

Maggie after a dive. Photo courtesy of Maggie Knight.


Cooking with Kelsey Jenkins

Kelsey Jenkins is a PhD Candidate at Yale University in the Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences. This article is about her cooking hobby. Kelsey was interviewed by Abdul Ada, a PhD student at LSU. This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.

Abdul Ada: How would you explain your research to a 5th grader?

Kelsey Jenkins: What I tell everyone is to imagine every reptile they can, living or extinct. That includes turtles, crocodiles, dinosaurs, all of that. I study the grandpa of all of those things and I study the things leading up to it.  

AA: How did you start with your cooking hobby?

KJ: It was the pandemic, I was so bored. I came up with a lot of really weird hobbies; this is probably the most normal of my hobbies! I started collecting coins off the ground, cataloging nature, just because that's what there was to do during the pandemic. You either sit at home alone or you go for a walk, and cooking came out of that too. I was like, I might just tell my friends what I'm up to, then I actually got a small following [on Instagram]. I think I have about 1000 followers, which is a big deal for me.

AA: What cuisine is associated with your cooking?

KJ: A little bit of everything. When I started the [Instagram] account, I wanted it to be a Cajun cooking account because I was up North and I hadn't eaten Cajun food in a long time. I was the source of Cajun food among my friends. But it turns out that there are about eight famous Cajun dishes, then you get kind of bored. So I changed the account to almost everything.

AA: How would you describe Cajun food?

KJ: There are two sorts of cuisines associated with Louisiana, Cajun and Creole food. Creole food is associated with the upper class, as one spends more on nicer ingredients. They tend to be seafood dishes that are creamy and rich, such as shrimp, grits, and etouffee. Whereas Cajun food is more of a working-class cuisine. For example, the rice dish jambalaya, which is kind of a hybrid of paella from Spain.

AA: Are there still dishes would you like to learn to prepare?

KJ: I want to get very good at making ramen. Also, Asian foods more generally, because the flavor profile is totally different than what I grew up with. I am always wondering if I am buying the right ingredients and using them correctly, so I don't cook Asian food very often, but I'm slowly trying to incorporate that. I've also been trying to find a good South African cookbook because I've been there a couple times and I've always wanted to get that type of background [in South African cuisine].

AA: Cooking can be time consuming. How do you manage your time between cooking and doing science?

KJ: At the end of the day, you’ve got to eat and you're going to do bad science if you're hungry. That's just rule number one about human survival: you’ve got to eat. I like nice food, but I'm also a graduate student on a budget. I can eat whatever fancy meal I want, as long as I’m willing to cook it myself. I only cook fancy meals two or three times a week, and the recipes sometimes can take only 30 minutes, and then you get back to work.

AA: Can you describe a cooking experience that did not end well?

KJ: What's more frustrating is when something tastes really good but the photo comes out really ugly. I want to post it [on Instagram] so badly, but no one's going to look at it or think it looks appealing if it looks really ugly. I also burn stuff all the time. You shrug it off and go to the next day.

AA: What positive and unexpected results are you seeing from your hobby?

KJ: When I started, I didn’t expect to get anything out of it. I think that now among my friends, I have a reputation for being a good cook, which is kind of nice. My lab used to have a member from Italy and, of course, Italians have a really good reputation for food, and now I feel like he respects me as a cook, which feels great. Other than that, it is just for my own gratification. I think that's why you have a hobby, it's for yourself, unless your hobby is helping other people.

AA: What keeps you motivated to cook? Is it the feedback from those trying your food?

KJ: Some people like to cook for others, because they like the camaraderie, and some people like to cook because they like to show off. And I like it for both of those reasons, but I think the more I cook for myself, the more I’m like, okay, this is something that I’ve earned. At the end of the day, it's important to take care of yourself, part of doing good science is taking care of yourself.

AA: For somebody reading this and thinking that this sounds good, but they don’t know how to start, what would you advise?

KJ: Start slow! Pick one recipe. Don't try to give yourself five recipes a week, because you're going to get tired. Start off once a week doing a recipe for yourself and then you're going to have leftovers, so you don't have to worry about what you make the next day. Start with something you're familiar with. Learn to follow a recipe, force yourself to look at all the words of your recipe and follow it, and don't go off course.

Kelsey in her new kitchen. Photo courtesy of Kelsey Jenkins.

Ramen with miso pesto. Photo courtesy of Kelsey Jenkins.

Spicy Thai peanut veggie burger. Photo courtesy of Kelsey Jenkins.

Spinach and kale lasagna roll ups. Photo courtesy of Kelsey Jenkins.

Hasselback potatoes with blue cheese crumbles and caramelized onions. Photo courtesy of Kelsey Jenkins.


Beekeeping with Bryan Heit

Bryan Heit is an Associate Professor in the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at the Schulich School of Medicine & Dentistry at Western University in Canada. This article is about his beekeeping hobby. Bryan was interviewed by Charlotte Adams, a PhD student at LSU. This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.

Charlotte Adams: How would you describe your research to a 5th grader?

Bryan Heit: Every day we encounter a lot of things that our immune system can recognize that it doesn't need to respond to. This can be cells in our body that are wearing out and just need to be replaced, or things from the environment like pollen. When you encounter those, you don't want an immune response. And then of course you might encounter a pathogen, where you do want an immune response. We try to understand how cells know which is which, and how they decide either yes, I’m going to respond, or no, I’m not going to respond.

CA: What got you interested in beekeeping?

BH: I was curious about it for as long as I can remember. I grew up in western Canada and spent a lot of my childhood on family farms. Some of the neighboring farms had beehives, and I’d always see them when I was driving by. I always thought they were kind of neat, but I had no idea how they worked or what they were about. I had a naive belief that bees were aggressive insects that would try to hurt you if you got too close. About five years ago, we moved back onto a farm and there was an opportunity for me to get into it. I started watching YouTube videos on beekeeping and got a better idea of how it worked. I decided to take the plunge and got my first beehive. It's a very enjoyable hobby, it sounds weird because you're working with stinging insects, but it's very relaxing. I tried it and I was hooked, and I’ve been doing it ever since.

CA: How many hives do you have?

BH: I currently have four hives. I also have something called a resource hive, which, depending on how you want to look at it, would either be a fifth or sixth hive because it's essentially a regular sized beehive split in half, so you can have two separate colonies sharing the space. Right now, I don't have any bees in that one, I just have the four main hives. For a hobbyist, that's about as many as I think I want. Any more than that and it starts to become a job!

CA: Would you say that this is a particularly dangerous hobby? Do you get stung often?

BH: I do get stung once in a while, usually because I do something dumb. The most common place I get stung is on my thumb. It's usually because when I stick my fingers in to pull out one of the frames [in the hive] and I’m not paying attention, I might half squish a bee, and when you do that, they sting. I’ve only gotten stung badly once. A skunk had knocked over the hive that night, so when I went out to look, like five bees stung me right on my chest. I ran back in and got my suit on to fix the hive. But normally they're pretty docile. Sometimes you get an aggressive hive and the first thing you do when that happens is replace the queen, to bring in more bees with gentler genetics. I've been lucky. I’ve only caught a swarm once that had a really aggressive queen, so I got rid of her and gave them eggs from one of my good hives to raise up.

CA: What do you do with your bees? Do you do anything besides collect honey?

BH: When I have a lot of honey, I try to sell it, but I’m lazy, I hate putting honey in jars. I have a friend who owns a brewery who buys most of my honey in bulk, and they make beer out of it. I like to brew, so I make mead with it, and sometimes I make my own beer with honey in it. We eat a lot of honey too, because we literally have buckets! There's also a fair amount of beeswax out of the hives. My wife is a farmer, that's her full-time gig. She breeds, raises, and sells goats, but a byproduct of breeding and raising goats is milk. She started making soap, and beeswax can be worked into some of those products. When we have more beeswax, we sell it, but it takes a lot of energy for bees to make wax, so the only wax you have is if frames are damaged and you need to remove it. It takes a while to accumulate. Another thing that bees make in the hive is something called propolis, which is essentially concentrated tree sap that they spread on surfaces as sort of an antimicrobial. It smells really nice. We harvest that too, and that can go into the soap. We made some beeswax wraps where you take a cotton cloth and melt beeswax into it, and you can use it instead of plastic wrap, so it's reusable. And I do one other thing, which is probably really nerdy. One of my teaching responsibilities is to teach a Microbiology lab, and we do a lab where we look at environmental microorganisms. So I grab some samples from the beehives, and there are interesting bacteria we find in there that we look at in the course.

Bryan sits with four active beehives.

Bryan sits with four busy hives. Photo courtesy of Bryan Heit.

Bryan holds a frame of bees from one of his hives.

A suited-up Bryan works with his bees. Photo courtesy of Bryan Heit.

A close up view of some bees on the frame of a beehive.

Close up of honeybees on a frame from one of Bryan’s hives. Photo courtesy of Bryan Heit.


Art Journaling with Janet Salmons

Dr. Janet Salmons is an independent researcher, academic writer, coach, instructor, and methods guru at SAGE MethodSpace. Her hobby is art journaling. This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.

Janet was interviewed by Elaine Nkwocha, a PhD student at LSU.

Elaine Nkwocha: How would you describe your research to a 5th grader?

Janet Salmons: I carry out qualitative research, which involves making observations, asking others about their research, or doing the research myself. I’m about to embark on a study with three other co -researchers who work in other parts of the world. Two people are from a group called e/merge Africa based at the University of Cape Town. e/merge Africa is a network of people in educational technology across the continent. The other person is from a group called AuthorAID, which hooks up graduate students and early career researchers with mentors who help them figure out how to get their work published. We’re going to contribute a chapter to a book about the principles of methods because we're all interested in research methods.  

EN: How did you get involved in art journaling as a hobby?

JS: When I was a teenager, I did watercolor painting and other creative stuff. In the last couple of years, it has been very stressful and demanding teaching in an institution during a fair amount of turmoil. When it was my birthday, my daughters would ask what I want; I’d say, “Maybe I need some art supplies; I need art therapy.” Meanwhile, about six or eight months afterward, these supplies just sat there, and I wondered what to do with them. Then I had a ruptured disc for which I was in an incredible amount of pain and got sidelined from things that I do, and I picked it up [art journaling]. I found that it was so helpful in getting through this time, where I was in a lot of physical pain and felt anxiety around that. Art journaling was incredibly relaxing and helped me get through that difficult time, and then I just kept on with it.

EN: What is your favorite thing about your hobby?

JS: I like trying out all the different supplies and trying out different techniques, and just the experimentation. It has been this time of isolation [with the Covid-19 pandemic], but I look forward to connecting with other people who enjoy the same hobby outdoors. Art journaling gives me another focus. In addition, I make art cards that I send to people, and it's a happy thing to get something in the mail that somebody made. I just finished making some cards for Easter and spring.  I made a series of pop-up cards with flowers that pop when you open them, and that was fun.

EN: What advice would you have for others interested in your hobby?

JS: Well, I have the '‘just do it’' school of thinking; don't overthink it. I’ve been teaching art journaling, and I have come up with a whole set of materials for people thinking about it. Some people do art journaling that is interior. It's their reflections or dreams, their hopes, their thoughts, and at an intimate level. Other people do things about their immediate environments, like a garden journal, their quote designs, menus and food, travel journals, and nature journaling. Do you want to have a combination of those things or have journals dedicated to one area? Journaling for some people is very much a private experience.  Part of it is choosing whether you would make a private kind of diary versus using it as a basis for exchange. One example of a cool project is the Brooklyn Art Library in New York. They have this project that is not juried - anyone can do it - where you can buy sketchbooks from them, fill them up, and send them back. They have a whole library of these sketchbooks, like an art installation, and a digital library where you can look at journals from people all over the world. Get some supplies, and just try it out or find something that you like to do, and that gives you a chance to be hands-on.

Is life ever still? Janet’s Brooklyn Art Library sketchbook project. (Video credit: Janet Salmons).

Janet enjoying outdoor art journaling time. Photo courtesy of Janet Salmons.

This and below images: Janet’s collage of the adobe house with door; a reflection with poems on how shut in we've been behind closed doors, and the anticipated openings. A mimicry of Georgia O'Keefe's painting outside to mirror the image behind the door. Photos courtesy of Janet Salmons.


Embroidery with Abby Kimmitt

Dr. Abby Kimmitt is currently a postdoc at Texas A&M University. This interview focuses on her embroidery hobby. This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.

Abby was interviewed by Maggie Vincent, a PhD student at LSU.

Maggie Vincent: How would you explain your research to a fifth grader?

Abby Kimmitt: I study how birds move and how that relates to how different birds look everywhere, [and how that] promotes diversity. Migrate is the word for their long-distance movements. When birds move, or migrate, that affects when they can breed and have babies and that affects the timing of other events in their life.

MV: How long have you been embroidering?

AK: It hasn’t been that long, three or four years. I always had a crafty side, I guess. I'm not really an artist, but I like doing different crafts. When I was little, I learned how to cross stitch, and then I picked up knitting in high school, so I've learned these different skills over the years.

MV: Is it a difficult hobby to get started in?

AK: No, having the resources and stuff for some hobbies is more difficult than for others. You can watch YouTube videos if you don't know how to do a certain stitch, and do it from the safety of your sofa. I have other hobbies that I have had to put on hold because of COVID, but this is something that is still easy to do at home.

MV: Do you make your own patterns?

AK: This is something a friend and I talked about, neither of us have done our own designs because it seems stressful. I think it's stressful to me because I’m not an artist. I like to draw some, but I don't think that it would necessarily turn into a beautiful embroidery, so I tend to follow other people's patterns and alter them. I wanted to do a lavender [flower design] and was having a hard time finding a pattern that I wanted, so I slightly altered one and added a bee to it. So, I modify it, but some people do like to make their own, and I think there is a pretty big market for it on Etsy, where they sell their own designs.

MV: Do you have a favorite project?

AK: It was very simple, it’s one I made for my sister. It's just the mountains and they're very blue, like the Blue Ridge [Mountains], with a sun behind it. The pattern didn't call for it, but I decided to do a fancier stitch type for the sun, and so I think probably that is my favorite. Almost every new one I do ends up being my favorite, because I'm improving. I'm not really that hard on myself about my embroideries, so I feel like, “I'm proud of this one.” Then the next one I do, I'm like, “This one's better than the last one.”

MV: What function does embroidery serve for you? Is it relaxing?

AK: It's definitely relaxing for me. As a scientist, there is a lot of thinking and a lot of stress, and this is a way that allows me to think some, but it's also easy to just get into. The pattern of it, you can just focus in that moment on what's happening and what is the next step. You can just zone out into this little stitching world, and not be stressed out about your next talk or your next project coming up. And all the things that you could be doing, but know that you need a break from, and shouldn't be doing, but also should be doing.

MV: There's this idea in science that you should be working all the time.

AK: Which I don't agree with, I feel really strongly that it's better to have really productive work [bouts] as opposed to working all the time. I don't think anyone can be productive if they work all the time, your efficiency slows down. I think it's important to take breaks, so that you can be your most efficient productive self.

An example of Abby’s work: a mountain and sun embroidery for her sister. Image courtesy of Abby Kimmitt.

An example of Abby’s work: a mountain and sun embroidery for her sister. Image courtesy of Abby Kimmitt.


Circus Arts with Holly Smith

Holly Smith is a PhD candidate at Griffith University studying Taphonomy. In her free time, she practices circus arts, including pole dancing, fire breathing, and trapeze. This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.

Holly was interviewed by Emily Ray, a PhD student at LSU.

Emily Ray: How would you explain your research to a fifth grader?

Holly Smith: I study something called taphonomy, which is the burial, death, and decay of ancient animals. I particularly study the death, decay, and burial of animals that lived in the caves of Sumatra. I did my field work in Indonesia, and I basically try to work out the life history and death history of those animals. 

ER: What is your hobby? 

HS: I started pole dancing first, and then the pole dancing society opened up aerial hoop and aerial silks, so I joined those. Then I started aerial yoga, moved onto trapeze, and then I was introduced to fire arts, body burning and fire breathing. Then I was introduced to poi, and I started doing fire poi. 

ER: How much time do you spend practicing your hobbies? 

HS: Before [Covid], I was doing pole [dancing] about 3-4 hours a week through the first and second years of my PhD. During my Bachelor’s and Master’s, I would say about five hours a day, six days a week. For aerial hoop and trapeze, you just set up a different piece of apparatus to move on to something else. Poi you can pull out any time, as it's a lot of spinning it around in formations and hitting yourself. Every time you get it wrong, you'll come in with a black eye or a bruise to the back of the head. But after like 15 times of doing that, I eventually got it. 

ER: Do you have a favorite discipline? 

HS: Pole is my thing, that's what I've spent most of my time on. I've got my own pole and I've actually set it up at my local gym, so I have everyone walking past, doing weights and Zumba, and kind of staring at me through the door because they're trying to work out exactly what it is that's going on. I've done university competitions against other people from my studio, I've done inter-university competitions with other British universities. I was part of the society in my local town in Australia as well. I've done all different types of pole, I’ve done pole theater, pole art, pole fitness. I've done the exotic pole. I've done everything you can think of. I've done Cirque de Soleil, Chinese pole, all the different arts. 

ER: Do you have a favorite memory of your hobby? 

HS: I think it was that moment where you feel like you can do it. You turn up the first time and you get asked to do some basic moves and walk around the pole. One of the first times that you go upside down, you'll do a basic Gemini, which is an outside leg hang. It's the first time your hands are off. You have to completely trust yourself to be upside down. When I did that, that was like, “I've got this. This is something that I'm going to do for a long time.” I've never been sporty. I used to hide in the toilets during PE [gym class] and watch all different sports and give 500 reasons I would not want to do that, but with pole, I was making excuses to go. 

ER: Do you have any advice for someone interested in starting pole? 

HS: Make sure that you go to a society or a class and find out what's right for you.  Make sure that you know the basic health and safety, and you take all the right precautions. Everything down to wearing the correct clothing, to making sure you've got your crash mats down. Don't just buy a pole, stick it up, and start throwing yourself around, because it's too dangerous to do that. This is a major athletic sport, people don't think it is, but it can be dangerous. You have to learn how to set [poles] up and take them down, and I've seen some pretty serious injuries come from not doing it correctly. And to not hold back because you think that you're not a pole dancer or you're not a fire breather. Don't say, “oh I can't do that,” because I've seen people from all walks of life, I've seen boys pole dance, and I've seen young teenagers breathe fire way better than I ever could. It's for everybody. 

ER: Why is it important for scientists to have non-science related hobbies? 

HS: You need to have a life outside of [science] because it can just eat you up. I've seen people who live in the office and eat at their desk, and it's no kind of life to have. You deserve to have time to yourself. It creates a friend group that will support you as well. They're going to say, “No, walk away from it, have 5 minutes, take time for yourself.”

Holly on trapeze. Photo courtesy of Holly Smith.

Holly on trapeze. Photo courtesy of Holly Smith.

Holly pole dancing outdoors. Photo courtesy of Elle Montanino of My Camera is Your Oyster Photography.

Holly pole dancing outdoors. Photo courtesy of Elle Montanino of My Camera is Your Oyster Photography.

Holly showcasing her fire arts skills. Photo courtesy of David Atkin of TGR Photography and Fusco Photography Studio HQ. 

Holly showcasing her fire arts skills. Photo courtesy of David Atkin of TGR Photography and Fusco Photography Studio HQ. 


“Dog Sports” with Gary King

Dr. Gary King is a Professor in the Department of Biological Sciences at LSU. He enjoys participating in dog competitions with his dog Albus, although he doesn’t view this as a hobby, but more as a lifestyle. This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.

Gary was interviewed by Eric Martinez, a PhD student at LSU.

Eric Martinez: How would you describe your research to a 5th grader? 

Gary King: My research [on microbes] involves the kinds of life that can do super things that humans can't, like live in water that is very hot, extremely acidic, or salty, or breathe without air.

EM: Can you tell me about your dog and the competitions?

GK: Albus is a Manchester terrier, one of fewer than a thousand of his breed in the United States. He is a little over two years old and I was able to get connected to him through a breeder in Los Angeles. He’s a constant companion. We’ve gotten into what most people would call “dog sports.” The primary goal of starting this was to make sure Albus was having fun and enjoyed doing it. Coursing, fast CATs [Coursing Ability Tests using timed runs], and agility competitions totally excite Albus, he absolutely loves these types of activities. A lot goes into these competitions, it takes a team effort. A dog can do all the activities in a course by himself, but that doesn’t mean he’s going through each event in the right order, he needs his partner there to help guide him through. Your dog is watching you and you are watching your dog, you are communicating and signaling [with hand and voice]. The dogs watch how you move too, they pick up signals from the way you position yourself. If they see you moving in a direction, this tells them what to do, and as a handler if you do this wrong, they won’t know what to do. It’s a lot more complicated than I originally thought. Agility competitions involve a minimum of 100 dogs, and the dogs and handlers range in classes from novice to masters and the courses are adjusted based on each class. There are different kinds of courses set up with jumps, weave poles [where the dog runs back and forth through poles that are close together], tires [that the dogs jump through], tunnels, A-frames [that the dogs climb up and down], elevated walks, there are a variety of obstacles.

EM: Do you have time to practice before running through a course?

GK: The night before a trial, maps are posted for each of the courses, so you can get an idea of what the course will look like and think about how you are going to run it. However, the actual course on the field has a different feel than the map. The handlers get eight minutes to check out the course before their run, where they can walk through each obstacle and get it in their head, “this is how the course is going to flow, and this is what I’m going to have to do to help guide my dog through this.” I’ve learned I need to look at this course in the way Albus will see it and not how I see it. He sees a tunnel right in front of him after a jump and that’s what he thinks he needs to do next. So I need to be directing him even before he makes the jump to make sure he goes to the assigned obstacle and not that tunnel. Some dogs are slower, making this interaction a little easier as they move through the course, but Albus is on the move when it is time to go, making it a little more challenging for me.

EM: How did you get involved in your hobby? Was there any specific reason you started? 

GK: The main reason for us starting competitions was purely so Albus and I could build a strong relationship while also having a fun time. Albus doesn’t know he’s the fastest Manchester terrier in the United States. He has the lifetime speed record for Manchesters. We started late in 2019 and right away he popped to number one, which I didn’t know about until another competitor let me know that AKC [the American Kennel Club] actually keeps records of all of this, so I looked it up and suddenly Albus was the fastest Manchester runner in 2019. All of the number one dogs in each breed got invited to a National Invitational that AKC put on in Orlando in 2020 and Albus had the opportunity to run there, obtaining a rank number of 17 out of 117 dogs. All of the breeds ahead of him were bigger, and he was only tenths of a second off of these bigger dogs. He’s currently number one in 2021 as well, and we’ll go back to nationals in December 2021. Just recently Albus set a personal best of running 30.11 miles per hour, the guy really flies, which takes him way out in front in the Manchester rankings. His previous best was roughly 28.5 miles per hour, and he just trashed that record. He’s running at the top speed of a lot of other fast breeds, so if you compare him to lifetime records of Italian Greyhounds, which are bred for speed, he’s actually in the top 10 of Italian Greyhounds. Though he has no idea how good he is, Albus is just having a great time.

EM: What is your best memory while doing competitions with Albus?

GK: The memories are all built around knowing how much fun Albus is having. Agility is very different than coursing events and I know he really enjoys going to the agility field. He knows our practice field from about a mile away, recognizing landmarks, and he starts to get really excited, jumping up and down, making all these noises, and once we drive up to the field it takes everything in me to keep him in the car. He just really loves running the agility courses. That, to me, is what this is all this about.

EM: What advice would you have for others interested in your hobby? 

GK: That’s easy: get a dog and start looking for fun stuff sponsored by AKC and others.

Gary and Albus running through a course.

Gary and Albus running through a course. Photo courtesy of Gary King.

Albus in full stride during a coursing run. Photo courtesy of Gary King.

Albus in full stride during a coursing run. Photo courtesy of Gary King.

Gary, Albus, and Albus’s new “little sister,” Princess Ka`iulani Kamaali`i Wahine Mililani (or “Lani” for short!). Photo courtesy of Gary King.

Gary, Albus, and Albus’s “little sister,” Princess Ka`iulani Kamaali`i Wahine Mililani (or “Lani” for short!). Photo courtesy of Gary King.


Celebrating Mardi Gras with Jordan Karubian

Dr. Jordan Karubian is an Associate Professor in the Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology at Tulane University. This interview is about his involvement in New Orleans Mardi Gras activities. This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.

Jordan was interviewed by Daleth del Salto Valleda, a PhD student at LSU.

Daleth del Salto Valleda: How would you explain your work to a 5th grader?

Jordan Karubian: I work with residents in a protected area in Ecuador to conserve forests and endangered species. A lot of people ask me why they should care about a forest halfway around the world. There are three reasons. The first is that rainforest is the most important habitat that needs to be protected from climate change, because it acts as an atmospheric carbon sequesterer. When you deforest, you release large amounts of carbon into the atmosphere, [contributing to climate change]. The second reason is that every spring, many migratory birds arrive in the U.S. to breed. These birds depend on tropical forests to overwinter. If we lose this habitat, these species will be lost. The third reason is that these forests contain an exceptional amount of biodiversity, providing ecosystem services like pollination, fresh water, etc. that are important for our collective well-being.

DDV: How did you get involved in your hobby?

JK: My family and I moved to New Orleans about 10 years ago, and we did not know anyone. My wife has a strong background in Carnival because she is from Brazil. So we started going to Mardi Gras events. One day, she saw that there was a co-ed dance crew with both female and male dancers. It looked like a cool activity with fun people with pretty sweet moves out there in the parade, so we approached them and were able to join. Now it is a big part of our life.

DDV: Has your hobby influenced your science at all?

JK: There is a Krewe [Mardi Gras social organization] that we started recently related to the mockingbirds I study. There is a tremendous amount of waste that Mardi Gras generates. During Mardi Gras, people leave a lot of beads in the street, generating a large amount of waste. Studies show that there are higher levels of lead [from beads] in the soil along the parade routes. Also, we have done work in my lab that shows that wildlife that lives in New Orleans, particularly the mockingbirds and lizards, ingest this lead and it negatively affects their behavior and physiology. Our aim with this new Krewe is to raise awareness of some of the environmental issues associated with Mardi Gras waste and lead contamination. We teamed up with the artist Pippin Frisbie-Calder and other people to put together some great costumes and a float that we use to collect thousands of pounds of beads and recycle them every year.  Also, Pippin made beautiful handmade prints with different materials, so when people recycle their beads with us, we give them one of these prints with a link to a website that includes more information about how waste is generated, its negative effects on wildlife, and ways to combat it.

DDV: What do other people think about your hobby? Are there any misconceptions around it?

JK: It comes down to how comfortable you are in your job, and impostor syndrome. It is important to recognize that scientists are people too, and that nobody does great working 24 hours a day. Also, it sends an important message to undergraduates, graduate students, and younger faculty to let them know that it is ok to do things that are not work-related, and spend time doing things that are fun and make you feel good. There is a misconception that you need to work all the time to be successful in academia. It is key to combat that with a positive message about a more well-rounded and healthy approach to life. There are always some graduate students and faculty members that are working constantly, so students compare themselves to them and feel inadequate because they are not arriving at the lab at 6 am and leaving at 10 pm every night. The truth is, you do need to work hard to be successful in academia, but when you look at the most successful people, they are not always the workaholics. I think [work-life] balance can contribute to higher overall productivity and help you avoid burnout.

DDV: What advice would you have for others interested in your hobby?

JK: There are all different kinds of Krewes out there. Some are very relaxed and require minimal commitment, and others are sort of a lifestyle choice and require constant commitment. The Ecology and Evolutionary graduate students at Tulane created a Krewe with an environmental theme, so they make their costumes and march at the Chewbacchus parade every year, and it is sort of a one-time thing.

Jordan and PhD student Annelise Blanchette conduct fieldwork in urban New Orleans. Photo courtesy of Jordan Karubian.

Jordan and PhD student Annelise Blanchette conduct fieldwork in urban New Orleans. Photo courtesy of Jordan Karubian.

Members of the Mockingbird Project in 2020. Photo courtesy of Jordan Karubian, photo taken by Fernando López.

Members of the Mockingbird Project in 2020. Photo courtesy of Jordan Karubian, photo taken by Fernando López.

Bead recycling in action. Photo courtesy of Jordan Karubian, photo taken by Fernando López.

Bead recycling in action. Photo courtesy of Jordan Karubian, photo taken by Fernando López.

A happy recipient of two prints by printmaker Pippin Frisbie-Calder. Photo courtesy of Jordan Karubian, photo taken by Fernando López.

A happy recipient of two prints by printmaker Pippin Frisbie-Calder. Photo courtesy of Jordan Karubian, photo taken by Fernando López.


Painting with Nick Mason

Dr. Nicholas Mason is the Curator of Birds at the Louisiana State University Museum of Natural History. His research focuses on different aspects of the evolution of birds, and his main hobbies included making music and abstract painting. This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.

Nick was interviewed by Diego Cueva, a PhD student at LSU.

Diego Cueva: How would you explain your research to a 5th grader?

Nick Mason: I'm interested in why there are so many different species of birds. There is an amazing diversity, 10,000 species! How did they come to be? And how do humans impact these species as well? All of these birds look different from one another, so part of what I'm interested in is, why do they look different? How do they look different? Is that related to where they live? And then how is that related to their history?

DC: As a scientist, do you have a favorite bird group?

NM: I focused mostly on tanagers up until now. Mostly because my Master’s advisor Kevin Burns worked on tanagers and I started under him and I continued working with tanagers for part of my PhD. The other bird I've worked a lot with is the Horned Lark, Eremophila alpestris. I got interested in those because there's an island population off of California and I was doing population genetics with that system to understand their colonization history and then, the more I learned, the more I became interested in other aspects of its biology. Now I'm studying its camouflage and its coloration, but I've also studied how it has changed over time, like in agricultural land in terms of its diet, or at least, its stable isotope signatures.

DC: I have seen some of the pictures you posted on Instagram about your painting, some with birds. How did you get involved in art?

NM: Part of it was moving here [Baton Rouge, LA] during the [Covid-19] pandemic. It was a bit weird because I would find myself on my own on the weekend, and be like, “I'm not sure what to do.” I started exploring new things and art is something that I discovered, and found that I enjoy, that I didn't really do before the pandemic.

DC: Did you have previous art experience before the pandemic?

NM: I've been into music, but I've never considered myself someone who draws, paints, or does visual arts. I think a lot of people put themselves in this fixed mindset, “I'm not artistic, that's just not me.” That was me. For a long time, I was, “No, I'm not good at painting,” and just got frustrated and whatever I would make wouldn't be good enough for some imaginary standard.

DC: What kind of art do you do?

NM: I started doing abstract art. I've started trying to paint birds now, but I started out initially putting colors and shapes onto something, and I would have ideas in terms of geometric things. I would use masking tape to create parts of it. Create straight lines and create patterns with that, and so a lot of it was actually just the process of planning through, ok, I want this part to be black, this part to be red, or whatever.

DC: What would be your advice for someone who wants to dabble in abstract painting?

NM: Just start doing it. I think that's the best way to learn and figure it out. There are some videos on YouTube you can watch about using masking tape, it's super easy. I started off with five tubes of paint, five brushes, five canvases, and some masking tape. If you start simple, then you get a feel for it. I had never painted before, so all of it is completely new to me. I was just having fun painting on the canvas, even painting it all black, putting color on top of that. Because it's abstract, and so it's just like, whatever you want to do. You don’t get good at painting overnight. [It takes] hours and hours. It takes time to learn how to do it. But I think anyone can do it. In some ways it's not so much the product, but whatever you get out of it yourself.

DC: What is your favorite thing about painting?

NM: Taking time to not look at my computer, and not be on email or social media. I could sit down, have an idea about some pattern or color combination, or even sometimes I didn't have an idea, just started painting to throw paint on the canvas, and that was really cathartic and fun. Everything in my first year [as the new Curator of Birds] has been trying to get everything organized, everything together. And this is a way to escape and do something completely different. One of the things I really enjoy is to start painting without any real goal. Then halfway through, it'll be like, whoa, this reminds me of this species of bird. For example, I have this white canvas and spilled a bunch of black paint on it. It started out as an accident, spread the paint around and mess around with it. Well, what bird is black and white? The Black-and-White Warbler {Mniotilta varia).

DC: What do you do with your artworks?

NM: A lot of them I’ve made as gift for friends. One friend, once we all get vaccinated, we're going to the Yucatan for a vacation. It was his birthday, so I made him a Yucatan Jay (Cyanocorax yucatanicus). I made paintings for my family members and my advisors and people I am close to. it's fun, the idea that I can make something for a friend and send it to them and especially now because I'm in a new place, my friends are far away. It is a fun way to keep in touch with people, and often I draw ideas from wherever they are or experiences I've had with them and then try to create some weird abstraction of that.

DC: How has this hobby evolved over time?

NM: Now I have this project with a couple of my friends where we send paintings back and forth to each other. I'll start a painting and them mail it to them and then they'll do a part and mail it back to me. I feel I’ve improved [over time], but the way that I started doing it, anyone can do it and it's fun. What I've been trying recently, and I want to get better at this, I've been trying to learn how to actually draw and paint birds better because I've been trying to put birds in my paintings. Some of them were really bad, but some of them turned out okay.

Nick and two of his creations. Photo courtesy of Nick Mason.

Nick and two of his creations. Photo courtesy of Nick Mason.

The artist’s supplies. Photo courtesy of Nick Mason.

The artist’s supplies. Photo courtesy of Nick Mason.

One of Nick’s paintings showing some of the effects that can be created with masking tape. Photo courtesy of Nick Mason.

One of Nick’s paintings showing some of the effects that can be created with masking tape. Photo courtesy of Nick Mason.

Nick with one of his more abstract paintings. Photo courtesy of Nick Mason.

Nick with one of his more abstract paintings. Photo courtesy of Nick Mason.


Making Ink with Holly Lutz

Dr. Holly Lutz is a scientist at the Center for Microbiome Innovation at University of California, San Diego, and a research associate with the Negaunee Integrative Research Center at the Field Museum of Natural History in Chicago. Her work focuses on microbial symbionts, parasites, and pathogens in a diverse range of hosts, from Afrotropical mammals and birds to marine invertebrates. This interview is about her hobby of using dyes made from plants and other natural materials to make art. This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.

Holly was interviewed by Wissam Jawad, a Master’s student at LSU.

Wissam Jawad: How would you explain your research to a 5th grader?

Holly Lutz: A presentation title I often use when speaking to non-scientists is “Bats and birds and bugs and things,” because I study all of the organisms that live in and on animals and humans. All of the gross little bugs and germs and things that you think are icky? Yeah, I study those! And I try to learn why we are all together, and how they can be good for us and keep us healthy and safe.

WJ: How did you get into your hobby?  

HL: Hiking and observing wild plants is one thing that got me into it, and I expanded from there into getting color from different oxidative states of metal – copper oxides are a personal favorite. I did my PhD at Cornell, in Ithaca, New York, and Ithaca is this beautiful spot that I didn’t fully appreciate until I was finishing up my degree. It’s full of forests that are state run and accessible to the public, and if you go out hiking on the trails and through the gorges, you find, especially in the late fall, that tons of plants have berries. And if you squeeze them, they’ll leave a pretty powerful color on your hand.

I was talking to a friend on how it would be cool to try to paint with wild berries, and she said, “Oh people do that! I have a book called Make Ink!” [by Jason Logan]. It’s a really great book that I think everyone should have.  The premise is that you can make ink from anything. There are many recipes in this book, and often they are super similar. Basically, collect some berries, smash them, and concentrate them down. I use a mortar and pestle, and then strain them through a metal strainer, and then strain them again using a coffee filter to remove the finest particles. You can mix the berry juice with vinegar, and this can change the color sometimes (you can pick and choose what to use as a preservative). These inks are like living things, there’s a whole bunch of microbial action going on in there and if the inks sit on your shelf for a while and you want to use them again, you might have to scrape off the mold or fungus growing on the top. It’s so cool!

It became a hobby while hiking around in the woods, I would look for material to turn into some unique color of ink. I’ve always had a little bit of an artistic streak - not to be confused with ability! I like to sketch in my field notes. You know, a lot of us are like that in the sciences. I think most humans are artistic in one way or another, whether or not we really express it.

WH: What do you do with the copper oxide?

HL: I literally just take pieces of copper from the hardware store and put them in a jar with vinegar and salt, which accelerates the oxidation process. What I love about these is you get such a crazy range of colors, from fiery reds and oranges to greens and blues.

WJ: How much time do you spend doing your hobby?

HL: I haven’t been doing it that much lately because I recently transitioned from Ithaca to San Diego. It’s very deserty, and the ecology is really different, so I’m still getting a grip on the plant life around me here. When I do get into it, I can become a little bit obsessive. I might spend a whole week, the kitchen’s a disaster, and I say to my husband, “just don’t come into the kitchen, I’m making ink”. It comes and goes in spurts. Kind of the same way we get excited about research projects I guess, spending 12 hours a day on it or more, then backing away from it during the peer review process.

WJ: What is your favorite memory of your hobby?

HL: I’m really into The Jungle Book by Rudyard Kipling, and I was getting into this hobby right around Christmas time a few years ago. My plan was to give my sister an original print version of The Jungle Book. At the very end of all the stories, there is a section called The Outsong. Oh geez, thinking about it is going to make me cry. I wanted to illustrate each of the characters that were part of Mowgli’s life and upbringing – Baloo, Kaa, Bagheera, the three wolf brothers –  and I decided to use these wild inks that I collected to do each of them. They’re not great, and I’m not a good artist, but I did it anyway.

WJ: What advice do you have for others discovering their own hobbies?

HL: I think it’s great when you can merge different facets of your life into one thing. Like with this, I really like the science of the inks I’m working with, I like that the inks are from this local area where I go hiking, and that I was able to use them to capture a story that I think is very powerful and super beautiful. I never do it with much of a plan, but this [The Jungle Book] is one that took me a couple of weeks.

Hobbies are important because they help us step away from our ‘normal’ mode of operation, while still allowing us to exercise our creative thinking and all these other tools we possess that make us who we are. Hobbies can help strengthen or draw attention to some of the rare or nuanced aspects of one’s personality, and I think we don’t do that enough in academia - or life in general.

Plant material for ink. Photo courtesy of Holly Lutz.

Plant material for ink. Photo courtesy of Holly Lutz.

Bagheera from Rudyard Kipling's The Jungle Book, using inks derived from plants, iron, and copper oxide. Painting and photo by Holly Lutz.

Bagheera from Rudyard Kipling's The Jungle Book, using inks derived from plants, iron, and copper oxide. Painting and photo by Holly Lutz.

Kaa from the Jungle Book. The black Holly used is iron and oak gall ink (the same kind of ink likely used for the Declaration of Independence!) and the brown inks are made from different berries, barks, and acorn caps. Painting and photo by Holly Lutz.

Kaa from the Jungle Book. The black Holly used is iron and oak gall ink (the same kind of ink likely used for the Declaration of Independence!) and the brown inks are made from different berries, barks, and acorn caps. Painting and photo by Holly Lutz.

Baloo from the Jungle Book. Holly says, “in each painting I left space to write in the ‘outsong’ delivered to Mowgli by each character. This is an adaptation from an artist I love named Brian Serway.” Painting and photo by Holly Lutz.

Baloo from the Jungle Book. Holly says, “in each painting I left space to write in the ‘outsong’ delivered to Mowgli by each character. This is an adaptation from an artist I love named Brian Serway.” Painting and photo by Holly Lutz.

Piece of copper showing off various oxidative states.

Piece of copper showing off various oxidative states. Photo courtesy of Holly Lutz.

Jellyfish painted with colors from oxidizing copper. Reds, yellows, and blues are mostly from copper (some yellow is turmeric mixed with ethanol), and the dark edges are from privet berry ink. Painting and photo by Holly Lutz.

Jellyfish painted with colors from oxidizing copper. Reds, yellows, and blues are mostly from copper (some yellow is turmeric mixed with ethanol), and the dark edges are from privet berry ink. Painting and photo by Holly Lutz.


Cooking with Luis Santiago-Rosario

Luis Santiago-Rosario is a 4th year PhD student in the Department of Biological Sciences at Louisiana State University. Luis studies butterflies to understand how the sodium in their diet affects their behavior and development and consequently, how this affects trophic-level interactions. Luis’ hobby is cooking elaborate meals. This interview has been edited for clarity and brevity.

Luis was interview by Patricia Rodrigues, a PhD student at LSU.

Patricia Rodrigues: How would you describe your research to a 5th grader?

Luis Santiago-Rosario: I would say, “Do you guys like salt? Like salty cookies? If so, that’s what my research is all about. How animals [butterflies] like their salt and how salt affects their growth and their behavior.”

PR: I didn’t know butterflies needed salt. Is that why they love pee so much?

LS-R: It’s because of salt! They like tears, rotting corpses, poop, fruits, they like pee, it just depends on how they were deprived of salt in the larval stages. They will try and find those sources of salt.

PR: So how did you get involved in cooking elaborate meals?

LS-R: I’m Puerto Rican, my nuclear family is small, just four people, but the larger family is really big. My father and mother worked all the time, so at a very young age I had to learn how to cook because it was expected of us. My mom always expected me to have food on the table at 12, 13 [years old]. And also, it had to be good, or she would be like, “oh this is bad”. And you didn’t want to hear that, right? So that’s when I started watching her cook and asking questions. Then I had to work while doing my Bachelor’s, so I got a job at a restaurant and that’s when I got a little bit more into refined cooking, spices, and also making drinks and all that stuff.

PR: What is your favorite thing about cooking?

LS-R: My favorite thing is having the people you care for enjoy it. And being a host, that’s the best part of cooking for me. Cause you know, cooking for yourself is not fun, but when you cook for others, it feels good. It’s also a good venue to be appreciative of other people’s efforts towards you. Because when you make something that comes from you, people appreciate it more than just a regular gift.

PR: Do you have a favorite meal you like to make? And how do you make it?

LS-R: Yeah! It’s a sweet plantain lasagna. It’s a very traditional Puerto Rican food. I cut [the plantains] diagonally, I fry them first, then I layer them. I put the meat– or you can even do it with paneer or a stew of beans or whatever– and then you layer [the plantains], then the meat, then the top layer is cheese and that’s it – you have a sweet plantain lasagna! It’s one of my favorites.

PR: What advice would you have for other people interested in cooking?

LSR: I think that everybody should have the skill of cooking at least decently. It’s a survival skill, right? It’s something everybody should have. It’s also that food has this thing of bringing you back to your roots, which I love. Being here and being away from family and everything, [cooking] just grounds me, which is really good. But advice for people that don’t like to cook: experiment, have fun, look at spices, just experiment. I think that’s the best thing you can do for yourself and the people around you.

PR: How do you manage time between your science and time for yourself?

LS-R: That’s a tough question to answer. I guess at the point where I’m at, I’ve been putting a lot of effort into writing, so it’s a lot of time spent. But I’ve decided to take time every day [to] focus on making a good meal or something simple. And then the weekends I spend with my partner, it’s just us, we cook together. In the end, you’ll do the same amount of work if you give yourself breaks of higher quality than if you don’t.

PR: Does your partner cook? Are they Puerto Rican as well or have other cultural ties to cooking?

LS-R: He’s from Peru. So, we have the best fusion of foods. Sometimes we cook together, for example, we make ceviche with tostones, which is fried plantain. Or we’ve made mofongo which is a fried mashed plantain [with] like a little well you can put stew inside. It’s a really great combination of two cultures’ [cuisines].

PR: Please share a turning point in your work as a scientist or in your graduate school life.

LS-R: I did my Bachelor’s in Genetics and my Master’s is in Biotechnology. Then when I started my PhD, I started in Ecology and Evolution. So, it was a huge shift. But the reason I did that is because I read [Mary Jane Eberhart’s] book on phenotypic plasticity and that blew my mind. It made me be like, what the hell is going on with natural selection and phenotypes and how they form and how does that maintain populations and why? Why? That was like boom, I need to study something related to this.

Luis and his mother cooking bacalaitos (Puerto Rican Cod fritters). Photo courtesy of Luis Santiago-Rosario.

Luis and his mother cooking bacalaitos (Puerto Rican Cod fritters). Photo courtesy of Luis Santiago-Rosario.

Luis enjoying the outdoors while grilling some dough and jalapeños for pizzas. Photo courtesy of Luis Santiago-Rosario.

Luis enjoying the outdoors while grilling some dough and jalapeños for pizzas. Photo courtesy of Luis Santiago-Rosario.

After growing some pumpkins in his garden, Luis is enjoying the harvest. Photo courtesy of Luis Santiago-Rosario.

After growing some pumpkins in his garden, Luis is enjoying the harvest. Photo courtesy of Luis Santiago-Rosario.